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1336·22 days agoBlah blah blah blah. China bad. Invading Iran, Venezuela, supporting the genocide in Palestine is all good, getting out of the WHO, removing USAID which had let to thousand of deaths around the world, threathing Greenland and Cuba. Causing global inflation to rise due to oil cost. Tariffs . Destroyed relationships with organizations and countries that took 80 years to build.
And that is just this year for the US.
What catastrophic action on this scale has China in let’s say the last decade?
Just look at the EV’s. The CEO of Ford was shocked about the quality and innovation of the Chinese cars. He’s driving a Xiaomi SU7 and refuses to give it up. At least Canada is now free of the US chains and letting Chinese EV’s in. The movement is unstoppable in the rest of the world. The only place resisting innovation is the US with its current regime.
You wish. Universal health care, infrastructure, social services, social security, competition in businesses, privacy laws like the GDPR are all part of life in China. Unfortunately the US has none of these. The US government is run by oligarchs and lobbyist. Which citizens of any other so-called first world country, rely on GoFundMe for health care or basic needs? As a German colleague once said, the US is the nicest third world country he’s ever visited.
Yes. The USA is a bastion of truth. Especially the current regime / administration.
5·1 month agoI wanted to start a rebuttal but realistically I’ll never change your mind. I just want to say all the things you mentioned like healthcare, housing, education, infrastructure (how is the high speed rail network in the US?) , social security, living wage, and privacy laws like the GDPR are all part of life in China. You make it sound, like most ignorant people who never visit China, like it’s some North Korea here. At least China is not beholden to its tech companies and lobby groups, who buy and own the current US regime. There is more competition and choice here than I ever had in the US. With the exception of ranch sauce that is. Lasty the big difference between China and most Asian countries vs western civilization, is the sense of community. In the US most people are selfish and for themselves - maybe because of the lack of the basic services you mentioned - and if your job doesn’t benefit them, no interest. Especially covid this difference in community became very clear.
I lived and worked in both the US and China. My life was infinitely better in China. You don’t even notice the cameras but what you do notice is that I can go to my café, leave my electric scooter unlocked with helmet on, get a table outside, put my laptop on it and then go inside to order coffee without any fear anything will get stolen. In the parks there are public coat racks and people put their jackets, backpacks and other stuff on without any hesitation. You feel safe at night walking down the street by yourself. This feeling I rarely have anywhere else. Delivery packages are left outside and gathered sometimes outside of the compound on the public walkway without being stolen.
Now whenever I travel to Europe, I have to totally reverse this behavior otherwise all my shit will be gone. That to me is awful.
Hahahaha wawahahaha
Yeah. Whilst writing, I had RFK Jr on my mind so forgive my grammar.
No wonder this thing is banned in Europe. It didn’t pass the safety test. Luckily America has much more freedom and much loser regulations.
https://www.ecoportal.net/uk/europe-bans-cybertruck-massive-scale/114/
I dumped Mullvad once it stopped working in China and support was ‘yeah go fuck yourself. We don’t care about China customers’. And indeed it stopped working for months so I indeed fucked off. Now have a much, much better, working VPN with 99.99% uptime. And so, so much faster than Mullvad ever was.
This is the kind of old school rhetoric that is a crock of shit.
The time that China is exploiting or stealing US IP are long gone. Just look at battery technology, EV’s, communication technology, pharmaceutical. China is now leading the world. Haven’t you read that the CEO’s from Ford and Honda stated it’s close to impossible to catch up with the innovation in regards to EV’s?
In regards to chips and GPUs, China is using open source technologies to advance. Are they there yet? No and that is in great part due to that clown Rutte who is in the pocket of Trump, and blocked ASML to sell in China. So they are 5 to 10 years behind hardware wise, but they will catch up.
More parties is a disaster. The Netherlands is a prime example. Hundreds of parties so no one ever has majority which means they always have to do a coalition. And if course that means hardly anything gets done because there is never consensus. And you can count how many times in the last decade, the Dutch government either resigned or fell. That is why it’s a bit of mess and people have totally lost faith in politics in the Netherlands. The Dutch actually have a real pedophile party - much smaller than the Republican party in the US - but still. There is a pirate party, animal party, party against citizens.
At least in China, shit gets done. There are 5,10, 15 and 25 year plans and generally the government doesn’t deviate from it. Of course every year they discuss and make adjustments but the main points remain. In China’s case it’s self reliance, green energy, technology, infrastructure and social security and services. Makes it easier for business to better anticipate and innovate as you know what the goals are.
Dutch voting form the size of a newspaper
Giving facts is bootlicking? There is workers protection in China, there is social security, there is social healthcare and there are laws that protect your privacy. Just because it doesn’t fit your worldview, doesn’t mean I’m a bot, or CCP clown or bootlicker. I thought people on lemmy are better educated.
People always shit on China, not realizing workers have good protection in general. Besides that unlike the US, China has a strong privacy protection law similar to the European GDPR. You’ll never hear about this, because that goes against what western propaganda would like you to believe.
https://www.hawksford.com/insights-and-guides/china-pipl-compliance-guide
Edit : exactly what I was expecting. Commenting ongoing negativity about China. Not talk about illegal wars started by the US, bombing children, the US genocide against the native Americans, slavery. No always the same rinse and repeat. I get it China bad. Like North Korea but worse except for all the advances in technology, infrastructure and medicine.
The US can do whatever they want in their country but leave the rest of us alone. We’re actually doing much better without you. It would be even better if you stopped interfering ie start an illegal war, in the name of Israel. Than we can all move on without the US.
710·2 months agoYou’re describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you’ll get an incling of how delusional you are.
Than why don’t they buy foreign EV’s? There were options but now both Hyundai and Kia have stopped selling EV models last year solely in the US. In my opinion that makes the choice for BYD logical as these US established brands can’t even sell their EV’s.
China spent trillion dollars alone in renewable energy just in 2025. There is no comparison anymore especially since the current US regime only believes in oil and beautiful coal.
Not to mention the advancements in EV’s, pharmaceutical, nuclear energy.
Most Americans would not buy a Chinese car anyway.
I love that Americans pretend to be the most important and competitive market. The combined population of Europe is twice that of the US. South East Asia is 700 million. And the choices in EV’s is triple that off the US.
These are the markets Chinese manufacturers are after. These markets accept Chinese cars based on the price, quality and innovation.
The US: less electric cars, no high speed rail network, terrible infrastructure that’s crumbling but at least you have a war that made gas prices soar.