• paranoia@feddit.dk
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    8 days ago

    Needs to be that everyone agrees at once, otherwise the Palantirs of the world will keep going.

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      8 days ago

      If only there was a centralized institution that would set rules and enforce them to create equality and fairness while building equity socially beneficial.

      (Insert image here of Trump building a Mad Max style fight cage on the White House.)

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      8 days ago

      Also needs to be a statement made in good faith and not marketing bluster in the form of concern trolling.

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      8 days ago

      the Palantirs of the world

      Which are nurtured by Capitalism and the free marked cult. If I were a rich psychopath, the first propaganda/manipulation I would pay for, was to promote the economic system that is most valuable to me. We can see that the same propaganda campaigns have created/maintained the omni-present ‘red scare’ and there are STILL people this day that use words like ‘Commies’ and similar primitive propaganda dogmas. What a coincidence that the Epstein class just happens to agree on 100 free markets and dislike Communism/socialism and similar systems that take away their power. Big wonder… The ‘Free market’ cult was created via ‘manufacturing consent’ propaganda by rich sh*tters, and now the childish belief-system have nurtured and grown the psychopaths and wealth to generate ‘the Palantirs of the world’. The Fascist surveillance state was always the endgame of Capitalism…

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        Do you not think that a hypothetical state without Capitalism could also generate an automated surveillance state? It feels to me to be less tied to the market system and more to authoritarianism. I would simply point to the fact that many European nations under socialism did have very strong secret police spying on the public under the pretext of protection from counter-revolution, which is not really any different to the countries under capitalism today, minus the technology.

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            7 days ago

            When I spoke about European countries under socialism I meant East Germany (Stasi), USSR (KGB), Czechoslovakia (StB), Hungary (AVH), etc.

            None of these countries were capitalist at the time and maintained gigantic security services to spy on the entire population.