Yeah, I’m staying on Rednote

  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    I mean, fuck Tik Tok, yes. But also try saying “Liberate Hong Kong”, “Taiwan Independence”, “Remember Tiananmen Square 1989”, or “Xi is Winnie The Pooh” on Rednote. Let’s not pretend that Rednote, or any other Chinese media, is free of censorship either.

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      Yes, you’re right. “This population under a genocide should liberated” and “Chinese man is yellow bear lol” are equivalent forms of conversation. Absolutely heroic.

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      Literally only one of those is a legitimate political position. “Taiwan Independence”. And it’s a position you’re allowed to broadcast on RedNote if you show any sort of knowledge and tact.

      Hong Kong was liberated in 97, and apartheid was slowly dismantled afterwards, and they’ll eventually be liberated from liberalism and then capitalism when it’s possible. Nothing platitudes don’t make that happen faster. If you care about the liberation of Hong Kongers, then do real political activism in Hong Kong with real policy suggestions.

      What does remember Tienanmen Square 1989 mean? Because to me and any reasonable content moderator, it looks like you’re trying to say “People died, be angry!” as opposed to actually advocating or cautioning about anything actionable. Are you making an anti-CIA appeal? Anti-IMF? Pro-IMF? Pro-Mao? Anti-Deng? Are you trying to say “If the soldiers weren’t unarmed, we could’ve avoided bloodshed”? Because then you’re basically saying soldiers acting as police should’ve shot then innocent people, which is illegal. You’re advocating for violence, of course that’s going to be removed by moderators. Of course you’re not actually trying to say anything at all, because you are both politically illiterate, and because you know nothing of the event. Instead what you’re trying to say is “I’ve seen a lot of photos of tank man, and I heard the Chinese censored news about the gunfights, I am very invested in that act of censorship failing because my government told me to be”. That’s not advocating for anything, you’re just attacking the state, armed with rumour. Outside of China, in most countries, you’re allowed to do that. But that doesn’t make it not trolling.

      Xi Jingping, the normal-skinned human is not a yellow bear. If you want to call Xi greedy or a messy eater or whatever else you imagine Winnie The Pooh communicates beyond a stereotype attacking all east Asians, then say that instead. Because otherwise it’s just going to look like you’re being racist, which should be removed.

      Why when you want to demonstrate censorship on Rednote do you choose topics which legitimately should be moderated, if only for community vibes. Do you want ‘Free Speech Absolutist’ edgelords setting the tone for the platform?

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      Poor baby doesn’t get to (1) call for violence on an international scale (2) Commit blood libel, or (3) Be openly racist

      Typical western liberal

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        Well as for point 1, there is, at most, equal as much call for violence in the phrase “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”, so those are actually decent comparisons of calls to action. Except really, as Hong Kong is not in open war with China, there really is no need for violence. China just has to give up its false claim to it. That’s even more true with Taiwanese Independence. That requires no violence at all. China is the source of the threatened violence in that case, and they simply need to recognize and respect Taiwan’s Independence from them.

        As for your point number 2, I assume this is in reference to Tiananmen Square? First of all, you need to look up the definition of libel. “Remember Tiananmen Square 1989” does not make any claims of fact, true or not, so there is no way that that statement itself is libel. Second, I’ll state outright that the massacre that occurred on June 4th 1989 is a fact, and you can kiss my ass if you are claiming otherwise. True statements, btw, are also not libelous.

        And as for point 3, really? I’m racist to repeat a childish meme about an authoritarian leader that his own Chinese citizens came up with? That shit started on the Chinese internet, my guy, not in the west. You have got an uphill battle if you want to claim that the Chinese people are racist against Chinese people. Dumbass.

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          equal as much call for violence “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”

          No there fucking isn’t. First of all, Hong Kong has been a part of China a great many centuries before the US had started their first genocide (and boy did they start early) and was wrested from them by colonial violence, like Palestine was wrested by the colonizing Europeans. Violence of the oppressed isn’t equal to the violence of the oppressor as much as libs like to clutch their pearls about it, the most unspeakable violence is what’s happening BY NOT FREEING PALESTINE.

          “Free Hong Kong” coming from fucking westerners is as disgusting as “Free Panama” was and “Free Texas” way back when. It means “free to be looted by US” and fuck everyone who still does the legwork for imperialists.