I cannot believe the downvoting coming your way for this.

On one - how the abuse of this cannot be foreseen by the most clueless person is beyond me.

On two - are people under the impression that the current child welfare system is adequate for the children that are currently in it? What about that system makes them think it would be suitable to increase the number of children in care.

Fucking mental.

Oh Baader Meinhof phenomenon, I’ve been seeing that everywhere recently!

I don’t think it’s about people lying to themselves, it’s just some of the stuff it predicts seems oddly specific they don’t even consider it.

Amazing stuff, the devs were a decent bunch too, I distinctly remember pestering a dev to create a save game loader that would write saves from a disk to a vmu on the irc channel for wraggster’s dcemu forum. Might have to dig out my old Dreamcast if it still lives.

Plex too fwiw.

Ah mate, that was a great community back in the day.

In what sense have they given up on the US re: tech?

And provide a succinct list of talking points and responses to chat to people at work about?

It could be, alternatively if the company goes out of business tomorrow you lose.

The question you need to ask yourself is how it will do vs other options, I’m no investor by any means but I’d be wondering:

a) would an index fund beat it long term (historically you might see 7% annual gains on a fund that tracks NYSE over the same period)

b) why is it trading below its face value - everyone has the same information about this bond in theory, therefore bond traders are aware of the same thing, if it was a great deal it would be in demand and the price would rise. So someone more experienced than us has accounted for the return and the risk/reward for them says $80 is right.

c) does it beat inflation - $450 payoff seems nice now (assuming you save up all those $5s) 30 years ago it would’ve seemed even better, but $100 in 1997 has the spending power of $200 today - in 70 years time the $450 might have the equivalent spending power of $100 today. Which is to say your real terms return may only be $20 over 70 years.

Coupon rate is paid on the principal - assuming the hundo is accurate then it’s $5/yr. If you think Motorola will be around in 14 years then you’d have your investment back. If you think they’ll be around in another 70 years you get $350 + $100 because when it matures they need to repay the bond.

What are you trying to model? It’s far from unusable.

FreeCAD isn’t terrible, especially since v1, it’s rough round the edges at times, but definitely usable.

You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

Okay, now airbus do freecad.

OH MY GOD THERE ARE BEARS SHITTING IN THE WOODS!

A Dutch guy mentioned it to me a few years back how far the brand has fallen, reminds me a bit of GE in the US. It’s kinda sad. The really crazy thing is a few of the investments they made and dumped have gone on to be key players in tech, like ASML.

Haven’t Philips enshittified almost entirely outside of healthcare products? Everything else is licensing the brand.

I’m beginning to wonder if AI is actually going to set us back technologically. Certainly it seems to be creating or widening a technology divide.

Yeah, I should’ve been more clear in my original post - I was trying to convey why investors would like him and just ignored the profit bit.

I’m not sure what your point is, the investors care about the stock price because that’s their money in/money out. Lower profit could be fine if they’re, say, investing 150Bn/yr into a new venture that stands to be profitable in the future (may even drive the stock price up). It’s vibes based to a degree, quite a bit of analysis goes into a company’s performance as well.

FWIW their gross profit is also up more than 3x in the same time frame.