

Dear reader of the above OP - this is the liberal thread. If you want a socialist thread, please scroll down.


Dear reader of the above OP - this is the liberal thread. If you want a socialist thread, please scroll down.


You can hide the AI preview using udm14.com or adding &udm=14 query param to your google queries (can be done automatically by adding browser search engine with this param)


https://udm14.com/ , you can also add “&udm=14” to your normal google link so you don’t have to rely un udm14.com, there should be a tutorial on the site


In Poland it’s already there in stores owned by the German Schwarz-Gruppe - Lidl and Kaufland. One might want to start shopping local to get exposed to 100% free range organic greed instead of lab-optimized greed at big stores.


Misleading title.
By the way, if you still want to use google’s search engine but want to avoid the AI stuff, see https://udm14.com/ or just add &udm=14 to your search query


Industry vulnerable to lack of investor money does badly when there is no investor money
Forgejo (/forˈd͡ʒe.jo/ – inspired by forĝejo, the Esperanto word for forge)


New food chain just dropped


HMD feature phones are such a let down.
The Polish language translation within the system is clearly automated translation - the words used sometimes don’t make sense. CloudFone apps are also not available in Europe.
The HMD 110 4G (2024, not 2023) has the Unisoc T127 chipset which supports hotspot, but HMD deliberately chose not to include it. I know because the Itel Neo R60+ has hotspot with the same chipset.
At least they made Nokia XR21 in Europe for a while.


For example, some people don’t like that it’s centralized. It’s not like e-mail, where you can register with any provider and then cross-communicate. Moxie wrote more about this here
I switched to a feature phone that has nothing to do with Android for calling (Mocor RTOS/S30+) because I’m tired of fighting Android for the moment. I keep an unrooted smartphone at home for online banking. Kinda extreme but that’s one way.


I wanted something that’s more difficult to consume media on. Something that is less conductive to feeding some guy’s advertising empire. The cloud apps are interesting to me not because of YouTube, but because of maps and public transport schedules. That way, it’d be closer to my main-main phone, rather than falling back to the smartphone for some apps.
E-ink smartphones like Mudita Kompakt seem pretty interesting, as the e-ink probably makes certain media unusable.
Whatsapp is somewhat optional for me as my friends don’t use it, but I know it’s important to other people. It would be important to me if I went outside the EU, though.
There’s also something about escaping Android.


Unfortunately there’s this post too: https://blog.bananahackers.net/farooqkz/on-the-state-of-kaios-and-bananahackers-community-as-of-summer-of-2023
Many “council” members have lost interest in developing for KaiOS. Many have not and believe this OS will live on and cover a minority of the market
But now, in 2023, this mobile Operating System seems to be on the verge of death. Not only KaiOS 3.0 is out but also KaiOS 3.1 is also out. But there is no device which is available worldwide. Only few carrier-locked devices for North America.


Here’s a demo of the cloud youtube playing https://youtu.be/2VPQ_3SAKi0?t=85 It looks tolerably legible to me. Definitely OK for playing music or dunno, watching soccer recaps or tech videos


buy the cheapest smartphone from alibaba
These feature phones are aimed at people living in countries who don’t have this privilege. If all I could afford is a 20 EUR phone I’d be pretty happy with having the cloud apps that I normally couldn’t be able to use. I’m sure that the executives at HMD don’t ask themselves “are we not violating the definition of the dumbphone?”, they’re trying to make their product attractive to sell the most units. And apparently the ability to watch YT or check cricket scores (the cloud apps), and in the future maybe WhatsApp, are just that.
Though yeah, my post is more about feature phones, not real dumbphones as I originally wrote in the title.
also, how does it even run a web browser when the whole device has just 128 MB RAM. will the device crash if I load up facebook. com?
The heavy lifting is offloaded to the servers (“cloud”), I think. The data you receive is how to draw the elements in the remote browser.


I wrote this by hand. It’s a fact list because I don’t want the research I’ve done to be lost. Does Deepseek find videos with links to a timestamp?


Most of the apps rely on contributors to provide supported locations. I was wondering if a dumb app where you provide the GTFS zip url of your city would be useful. Could work if you stay in your city a lot
e.g. most of what you see on https://www.transit.land/map#3.46/47.78/12.46 is GTFS (hopefully public urls)
Jealous you got the metal one. I bought the earlier plastic version. They’re supposedly making a Echo Nano version too