As someone not affiliated with Deltachat, but who runs a chatmail server, it is dirt cheap, can run on almost anything, and simple to set up.

Although, I do have 20 years of operations experience, so that last bit may just may be me.

Look at Delta chat.

Delta chat is the best. Especially with webxdc’s.

https://webxdc.org/

I don’t take anything from someone I don’t trust that also explicitly doesn’t use warrant canaries because he says they don’t work in contradiction to every legal authority.

It’s also an issue that they run the signal server on one single AWS region.

It isn’t hard or even all that expensive to run on multiple regions.

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Delta chat is what I moved to from XMPP after NPM-7.

And yet a single availability zone in AWS caused an outage?

You have it backwards.

There are some very few specific use case that most companies don’t ever meet that makes AWS cheaper. In the vast majority of use cases it is an order of magnitude more expensive.

It’s never been cheaper. It’s so much easier to scale. It’s never been cheaper. Well, maybe at a very low usage rate. But, at scale, it’s never been cheaper.

Buying server hardware is a lot more difficult and with more lead time than just buying a computer. Plus you then have to build your server infrastructure out in a data center. It takes a lot of time, and specific logistical skills. AWS is far easier to scale your services then doing it yourself, especially if you have extremely high peaks that you have to serve.

If AWS was cheaper then hosting, they wouldn’t make money.

You effectively have no user id’s with chatmail relays with DeltaChat. Routing of messages uses the default TCP/IP stack and so you can just use TOR if you want to. Mentioning a chat systems ability to use TOR, as if that should be a part of the chat program rather than the system it self seems strange to me.

I’ve run a matrix server with around 250 local users. The schema Matrix uses is fundementally flawed that leads to excessive resource usage, and the DB is very easy to corrupt. Plus, the encryption key management sucks in comparison to DeltaChat and SimpleX.

Federated servers, Multiple device access without the phone app being open, Decades old tried and true backend protocol that would be a problem to ban.

Also https://webxdc.org/

Definitely continue the fight, but in the meantime, migrate to something like DeltaChat.

Nothing you wrote was a response to what I wrote.

I also don’t care what you ‘studied’. I lived it. Google and Apple were literally, and this is a quantifiable fact and not an opinion as you seem to be treating it in your response, the 10 person startups that were going against industry behemoths.

Yahoo was, at the time, was a Juggernaut.

I.B.M., at the time, was a Juggernaut.

Google and Apple were once the 10 employee nobodies going against behemoths.

Google also used to have no lock in, as well. It’s original selling point was an open ecosystem with no lock in, unlike Apple.

You’re like a walking definition of ‘those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it’

This comment is just ‘what do you have to worry about it you’re not doing anything wrong’ with extra words.

Hauk

For one, it wrecks your battery life.

Secondly, everyone I know my age keeps GPS off unless using a mapping program.

Finally regarding app privacy, people do care about that which is why grapheneos and other privacy focused OS’s exist.

The fact that you don’t care about privacy and want the government and corporations to have every sext you’ve ever received or sent doesn’t mean that others don’t care as well.

XMPP

This is the correct answer. So much better than mautrix and hostng a matrix server.