

Well, look at the /e/ os. It just confirms the narrative. If you just hate google, you can remove their apps via ADB.


Well, look at the /e/ os. It just confirms the narrative. If you just hate google, you can remove their apps via ADB.


Yeah, no shit. Look at their OS and online services.


Well, what about M series macs and SDM laptops, which are deliberately designed to be hard to reverse-engieneer.
Well, there is no GPS/HR tracking, so it isn’t very useful apart from telling the time.
Or Mi bands (with GB). Xiaomi hardware is great ignoring their newer phones, but their privacy is horrendous(but as far as I know, they don’t profit from their hardware sales at all, so you don’t support the company).
If you want the official app, Garmin is relatively private, but it forces you to cloud sync if you use the app (the app works without GMS, but doesn’t display the map.)
Or rather axp.os - some hardening and locked bl. (use the lite version instead of the rooted one)


Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don’t give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.
There is a AXP-OS, but it doesn’t support unpriviliged MicroG and they focus on their ‘PRO’ (rooted) version, which you have to use if you want microG + AVB.


It’s in the whole EU as far as I know.


Wow, some people can afford phones. I can’t just buy a phone for 400€. I have a 2017 Redmi 4x i got for free from my dad. Hopefully my next phone will be a device with GOS.


Well, they still usually use test keys and don’t support AVB yellow (which doesn’t concern me because my phone is old enough it doesn’t support AVB anyway).


Or just use lockdown mode.


Yes, But the marketplace is actually useful.


Open platform my ass. Most carriers just use Google’s servers for it.


What choice do I have? Not using a phone? Not being able to message my relatives when not bringing a laptop to school?
After I unlocked the bootloader and flashed custom software, the privacy invasive OS from Xiaomi is gone, unless they embedded a spyware into the bootloader, which any other company could also do.
But I do use Linux on my laptop and try to avoid useless and privacy invasive smart home devices (which is all smart home devices).
Don’t worry. When I will be able to afford it, I will switch to a GrapheneOS phone.


Well, 800 - 1000€ for a new pixel is normal even in EU. Where the fuck could I even get that kind of money as a highschooler? I’ll just use my old (2017) Redmi 4x with LineageOS for the time being. I know it isn’t secure, but it’s the best I have.
And of course, I don’t recommend buying older redmis (I got mine for free around a year ago). The security is atrocious since it doesn’t support AVB (not even with original OS). I’m always anxious about it starting to bootloop (since it randomly restarts, I saw the same issue on multiple Xiaomi phones, even ~2 year old ones). And while I have used some decent phones from 2017, the Redmi’s performance is underwhelming while others (like my mom’s huawei p10) still perform well.


The cars (in EU) used to be under 20.000€ ~6 years ago. Yes, I understand inflation exists.


It isn’t it’s just an excuse to put people you don’t like in some kind of hole where they rot to death.


Yes, the minority is harassing the majority. Hmm, very logical.
Well, you get a superiour privacy and security by just debloating a device via ADB.