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And who are the millions of acres of crops used for? To feed livestock and then get a small fraction of the calories out of it

You saying they’re independent doesn’t make them independent.

I mean any energy efficiency is probably better than actual animals. Most of the energy and water you feed animals is used to sustain their life until they’re killed and will not be there for consumption.

You know all that you’re writing might be the most unscientific way to claim a supposed truth and honestly that’s kinda hilarious in light of your “all-knowing wisdom”

Why do you think all these people were driven by cynicism? Why do you hold yourself to be so above “the average person” that you can’t even communicate with them? Why do you consider cynicism such a strong driving force and curiosity so weak? Also your example of a person walking in a random direction in a forest is peak curisity behaviour. Curiosity is walking where no one has been to see where it leads. Why would that not be what drives new discoveries?

If you accept that other people function differently, then why do you exclaim absolute points about how no one does research out of curiostity and everyone does it out of cynicism and/or spite? This thread is not the one where you asked questions which I agree with that comment. This is the thread about why people do science and question others science

And that broader social concept is enforced by other men being toxic to people not fitting that narrow definition. Only takes a small loud group to make a much bigger group feel bad about themselves if they don’t fit