I worked in the energy industry for over a decade and a half and I was amazed at how every CEO we had (because they rotated out every couple of years) seemed to only pick the actions that made stort term money while royally screwing over the next CEO’s tenure. And the crazy part was everyone knew this was happening. Some CEOs even stated the quiet part out loud.
I currently run GraphineOS. I will probably buy one more refurb phone that can run it until Android is dead. Then I am switching to a dumb phone for calls and SMS, and a mobile hotspot connected to a pocket sized cyberdeck. I can still run the apps I want and no longer need Android. With a 3d printer, 25 years of being an electrical and software engineer I can easily make a device that does what I actually want.
Is this practical for the average person? Of course not. But this whole problem is something the average person can fix. STOP BUYING SHIT FROM COMPANIES WHO SCREW YOU!!! Use your power as a consumer and stop giving them money. Make them feel the pain of doing anti-consumer actions. None of this stuff is a requirement for life. If they see a hit in sales, if everyone who makes apps pulls them from the app store, they will change. But it requires everyone to act, and we damn well know most of yall will do nothing but complain.
This problem is a foot gun where we are all buying the gun, loading it, handing it to someone while sticking our foot out and we want to blame them for the bloody hole. Stop it!
They are going to accept whatever the government says is acceptable. We are already seeing it where IPs from some states get blocked when state law says you need to submit an ID to get access to porn.
I think the issue you’re having is that you’re still under the impression that the point of this law is to actually restrict minors from accessing sites. It’s not. And we know this because of what the politicians are doing and how they are doing it. I’ve written about this before but I’ll give you the short version.
Self reporting Date of Birth doesn’t work as people lie so you need something better. But as we have discussed there isn’t typically a great option because of the way government and technology works. Anyone in the government who thinks any solution won’t have holes is an idiot, so we can ignore those people for right now. The rest of the people pushing this bill must then have malicious intent.
What happens after this bill is implemented and holes are found? The same politicians say “We need to just go full ID instead of Age” and because they already have the bill passed for age it will be a far more simple bill to just bump up what goes into the Operating Systems. Heck it will most likely be snuck in some other unrelated bill and no one will care.
If all they really wanted was for there to be age restrictions they would have left it up to the service providers to find a way to resolve the age issue. This is how we see it implemented with all IRL issues. There isn’t a government provided token created for the sole purpose of purchasing beer or guns or hard copy porn. When you go to a liquor store it is up to the seller to do a verification. I’ve seen people use foreign passports, one guy came into a bar I was working and showed me his birth certificate because he didn’t have a drivers license anymore. If someone just looks really old they don’t even get carded.
Why would we want the sites to find a solution? Because some solutions are bad, like giving your full ID. If any site asks for that people can say nope and not use those specific services, finding alternatives that ask in ways the individual is comfortable with. You can trust who you want to trust and ignore those you don’t. Where as if the government takes the info an keeps a big database and you have no other options you’re just SOL.
no, the point of the key is to access infomatîon without giving away personal information.
Even a photo ID doesn’t prove age. It just shows a record of what age the gov thinks someone is. They are still prone to forgery, misuse, etc. There isn’t any actual method of showing someone’s age so we can skip that part and focus on what the actual need of the user is, accessing a website while not handing over more personal information than is necessary.
It can be a shared token. For example a cryptographic hash. There are many solutions for the problem of certifying a token while giving no traceable data.
In most solutions there would be the traceability of knowing “User X went to site Y and site Z” but never knowing who “User X” is. There have been solutions proposed that create site specific hashes where it becomes more difficult if not impossible to track a user across different sites. So it just depends on if this issue needs to be resolved or not.
Personally I would be fine letting every porn site I use know I’ve been to every other porn site. If you wanted to go somewhere that you don’t want them to know, throw out your token and go get a new one.
You are changing the goal. The point of this is to provide THE USER with a solution where they don’t have to give away their personal information to the Government or the 3rd Party site. We do not care about situations where users commit crimes as that means our focus is on the Government’s needs which they would already have met by just implementing a “Show us your ID” solution.
Now you could make the pin be a biometric so it’s physically connected to the user. But part of the solution needs to be that the token is not identifiable with the user. If I pull of my wrist band no one will know it was mine. If you throw out your token someone could go around testing everyone’s fingers and find out it was yours.
That’s not true. It’s simple if all you actually want is age verification.
You go in to the government building and show your ID. Seeing you are 18 or older you get to go to another room where they don’t check your ID, just give you a token saying the one holding it is over 18. Make the token like a FIDO key where you have a pin you set yourself.
There is an air gap between the validation and the token creation so there is no way to go from token to ID. You make the key use a pin so we consider it to be once usable by one person.
The issue is not about the technology. The issue is that we all know this has nothing to do with kids getting on porn sites.
What are you doing on your work VPN that you care if the government illegally looked at? I work in an industry that legally requires security like a VPN and I don’t care if the government broke the rules. It’s above my paygrade.
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This is my biggest pet peeve of OSS projects. Someone writes some code and that is where it ends for them. The rest of the infrastructure is so free and so easy that there is no need for dedication to the project.
I am talking about when the price is no longer based supply. When we see their market bottom out on AI one would expect to see the price drop. But looking at recent history these massive companies keep the price high because consumers see it as the new normal.
Consumers will find a way to eventually afford this price bump when its not food, shelter or medical care. It just takes a little longer when it is not a necessity.
But consumers are stupid. when they start selling ram again at a high price we should all boycot buying computers. instead a lot of people will just accept the new price. we saw it after the pandemic, people just accepting prices instead of holding fast and forcing prices down.
it is not much better than just running a linter over your code.
yeah it’s “replace 1M lines of current code with whatever it takes to do the same task.”
you know when the bubble pops and they no longer have AI companies buying RAM they will switch back to consumers and keep the high prices.
the crazy prices will eventually lose users. so the price will drop but the phone manufactureres won’t just accept the loss. instead they will sell you as a commodity even harder.
because the thing they strive for is getting more. it’s about status. they only give it away if it somehow nets them more wealth.
with being a walled garden i have a feeling we will eventually see phones become genuinely free because you will not have an option to keep your data away from advertisers. AOSP is barely holding on to maintain a safe place for users. when all hardware is locked down we will be stuck.
because you actually watch porn for the plot?
No, the better solution is for sites that age verification is pointless to block Utah. If you make a mobil app check the GPS or IP and disabl the app if they are in Utah. People should go on sites like Yelp in mass and put down votes on every establishment in Utah so that ths site becomes useless for anyone in Utah. Pretty much just destroy all tech and internet for all things Utah.