No email service can refuse to obey the law. None.

Proton is at least non-profit now.

They can say the same about me, right? I have so many communication apps on my phone, why do I draw the line on Facebook Messenger?

Most likely you’re the only person they know on Signal and it makes more sense to them that you move to Facebook rather than moving their entire friend-sphere into Signal.

First of all normie not an insult or a derogatory term. The term “normies” is often used in many niche communities to refer to someone outside the community. It has nothing to do with being smart, privileged or experienced. It means more like “the average user” or “the typical person”. Example: a person in the boardgaming community may refer to you as a normie, not because you’re dumb but because you don’t play hobby boardgames (check out Brass: Birmingham, what a game).

The problem isn’t about comprehending the problem, most people understand that Facebook is selling their data. They just don’t care. They would rather have their data sold than to have the trouble to move to yet another communication app. WhatsApp is working just fine, Facebook is sparking joy. They don’t care.

“Normies won’t do X” is a perfectly acceptable way to express that the hurdles are too high for the average user. The average user wants a sleek UI, a user friendly experience and most of all they want to be in the place everyone is already at. The average Joe doesn’t want to be the first guy on Simple X, they actually really want the hassle free platform everyone is already at.

Also, the next great communication app is constantly changing. It used to be IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Telegram, Signal, Matrix, Simple X, Session. I’m sorry to say that the average person is not willing to migrate that often. Facebook works, their friends are already there, they stick to it. This isn’t elitism, it’s just stating what I see.

It’s not elitist, it’s realist. They don’t want to install Signal just as much as I don’t want to install Facebook messenger.

Yes you can nag people but it will more often than not have the same effect as when people try to convince me to install Facebook messenger.

If the worst part about Signal is having a third party send you an SMS to confirm your phone number then that’s amazing.

Why are you hating on Ladybird when its not even in alpha stage?

I used to have Mullvad and switched to Proton because I use pretty much their entire suite…

If you don’t need port forwarding, I think Mullvad is superior in everything. Such a great service, highly recommend it.

When I use the linux or web client it asks for a selfie with my ID card when I try to enter a server.

Works fine on Android.

Contacted support, they say my account is not flagged as underage but I have to submit the photo anyway. I told them i won’t.

Is the video catalog larger for paid customers?

I searched for my topics of interest and hobbies but barely got any hit.

Sucks they don’t have a trial period.

Normie is not an insult or derogatory. It just means “normal person”, who is usually not very tech savy.

Most Normies don’t care about privacy. They know, accept and are ok with their data being collected and sold in “free” services.

Normies don’t care about that. They care about WhatsApp, Instagram and tiktoks.

Sure but what’s a viable alternative for normies? It would be simple if a viable alternative existed. For normies, I reiterate.

Sneaky, aren’t they?

Nop. Disable it in the settings/apps

I also don’t have a Gemini app but if you search for Gemini in the Settings main menu, it shows up.

You think running Java applets and flash was better than what we have today? Now that is delusional!

I’ve been using Proton Pass and it has been a game changer for me. Hot take: I think Proton Pass is Proton’s best service.

It creates not only a unique password for each service but also a unique email address alias. If a website leaks my email address and I get spam, I know exactly who did it and I only need to swap 1 login credential.

Has a built-in 2FA and passkeys. Works great in the browser with proper auto complete, even for the 2FA code. Works fine on Android and password in both browser and applications get autocomplete.

Proton Pass can be used by everyone, regardless of their technical level, in every device. My mom could easily use this across all her devices. I’m told Keepass is fantastic but having it sync across all her devices would be challenging for her.

Most Proton services feel kinda underbaked but Proton Pass is excellent.