

Sorry no :(
It’s an “IRL” friend only thing, and I don’t want to associate this account with my real name (My IRC instance has my name tied to it)
But I’d be happy to help you get connected to one of the public servers if you need! :)


Sorry no :(
It’s an “IRL” friend only thing, and I don’t want to associate this account with my real name (My IRC instance has my name tied to it)
But I’d be happy to help you get connected to one of the public servers if you need! :)


I <3 IRC
I still run my own server. My friends and I hang out and play with chat bots and send memes and comics back and forth. It’s a pretty chill place to hang out, and it’s super easy to self-host.
Go take back the web that was taken from you.
You can keep dancing around the fact that they cheated all you want. I find it very telling that you can’t even keep your original argument straight.
No, the court agreed that they are allowed to cheat.
“We don’t have to play fair. We can cheat if we want.”
“It didn’t say they cheated.”
“There’s no right to not have your candidate disadvantaged or have another candidate advantaged. There’s no contractual obligation here…it’s not a situation where a promise has been made that is an enforceable promise.”
They argued this in court. If they ran a fair election, they could have just provided the evidence. Instead they told the court that they don’t have to run fair elections. Why would they say that, if they ran a fair election?


They got a lot of money by selling out their users. They are still getting a lot of money by selling out their users.


Wait, you mean the people that hoard all of our resources and don’t pay taxes will leave? Oh noes! 😱 What will we do without them…
LoL, that wasn’t the original internet. That was years after the internet had been around. <joke here about these kids needing to get off my lawn>


What is the gain? What is a single gain you think they have milked from their users?
But nobody pays for Firefox? Do you mean the “recommended pages”?


They get money from Google, advertisements, and selling data. Did you think Mozilla made it without paying their employees and executives?


I’ve heard that it was also good for cleaning water. Historically, people didn’t know about germs, but low-alcohol drinks were a good way to clean out the dirty water


Money for their executives


“…from email to LLMs, that nobody self-hosts”
As someone that self-hosts those things, both professionally and personally, I’m gonna have to disagree. I wish more did, but there are plenty of self-hosters out there, they just don’t get headlines.


Yes. I find a lot of people actually learn what they are talking about before talking about it. I also find that a lot of people read what I write, and address those points, rather than points that I never made.


And I have a hard time addressing people who refuse to research, and keep arguing against things that I never said.


Citation requested
Do some searching here, on reddit, etc. You’ll find it.
Good for the massive waves of people who want to give Mozilla money. They already can https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/?form=donate-header
That’s not what I said. I said that they wanted to donate to Firefox, not Mozilla. I find it very telling that Mozilla doesn’t let them do that, but insteads forces people to donate to the org, that overpays it’s executives.
Oh yeah. I LOVE when my boss tells me that I am going to get paid less but I will be more effective because of it. Oh, wait, no I don’t.
Who said that the people who are actually working on Firefox would get paid less? I certainly didn’t. I clearly said that the useless executives would get paid less
Honestly? it sounds like you don’t care about reality and just care about things being ideologically pure for you with the expectation that it will all work out. So… maybe try to educate yourself on any of all this before trying to have a discussion about it?
I have. But you clearly didn’t read what I posted. If you aren’t going to address the things that I wrote, why comment?


The userbase does want to give them money though. I constantly hear people say that they want to donate to Firefox, but Mozilla doesn’t let them do that.
Also, I never said that Patreon would give them more money. It would be less money, but it would be more effective, as they could finally ditch the worthless exectutives that keep draining Mozilla’s resources.


I feel like I’m mis-understanding your argument. Are you saying that Mozilla can’t do things that other groups are already successfully doing, because “The popular people make too much money” doing it, and “They are already getting that via the Mozilla Foundation”?
That doesn’t make sense to me.
Youtube has been hiding videos from me for years. I’d look at my “Subscriptions” page, and wouldn’t see anything new. Then I’d go to the channel’s page, and see a few new videos.
That prompted me to start using my RSS reader instead of youtube subscriptions. A more reliable experience, for sure.