They don’t recommand it because if bought today you won’t have much support in the comming years. So if you are already on Pixel 6 Pro you can install GOS it’s just that once Google stop supporting it Graphene will do the same.
The thing that they don’t show a code Licence in their comparison is a bit off. It’s proprietary software comparing to FOSS or Open Source competitor without any mention to this… But maybe it’s decent.
While I agree to avoid using Sandboxed GMS I strongly disagree with do NOT use statement.
My main profile doesn’t have them, I get some proprietary apps through AuroraStore which grabs the APKs directly from Google Play Store without using my Google account and most of the time it works (Aurora Store is a bit buggy at time).
There is some apps that I can’t use without Play Services or if they are not installed from Play Store itself (FUCK DRMs!). For them I have setup a user profile with the Sandboxed Play Services, it stopped when I leave the profile and let me use these apps that I NEED more than absolute privacy or anonymity.
I strongly recommend to anyone to try using GrapheneOS without them, especially if you’re already into multiple FOSS apps. The Plexus app could help you identify which apps would cause issues for you without the Google shit. Then if needed for some apps with no alternative that suits you, setting up either a seperated user profile or, if it’s too unconveniant for you, a Private Space with the Sansboxed Play Store and Services installed. And if these two are still not conveninant for you just install them on your main profile, that sucks but that’s the sad reality of Android. As stated by the GrapheneOS Team it will still be way better than stock Google OS or any other manufacturer flavour of Android.
Not everybody have the same threat model and using GrapheneOS will improve your security, privacy and control over your device even with these proprietary background services from Google. Maybe for your threat model (or ideaology) you shouldn’t use them but that doesn’t mean everybody should do the same. Privacy shouldn’t be all or nothing, it’s about power and control over your personal informations, and GrapheneOS is a wonderful tool to take back some of that from your phone, having Sandboxed Play Store is okay even if not desired and you can choose how you want it thus having control and power over them.


Yes, sorry I was too lazy to provide any sources here are a few (mostly in french sorry). It was called the 8 December case or “L’Affaire du 8 décembre” in french.
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You forgot that french juges have used the facts that people installed Linux, Signal, /e/OS and GrapheneOS has evidence to charge them!
I think they were leftists activists charged for eco-terrorism but I don’t remember all the details but you should take a look. La Quadrature du Net has done some blogging and court things over this events of dark times.
I mean you cannot fit Monero in the same bucket as the rest of the cryptocurrencies. No foundation, no company, no VCs, no pre-mined, CPU-based PoW, no major on/off ramp accepting it but still a strong currency with real usage outside speculation made by a community of builders. Can be life saving for some high risks profiles and honestly is the complete opposite of the cryptocurrency market, I’m thankful it exists.
Monero is based though
As long as they don’t sell that to people as “easy money multiplier, invest you’ll become rich in weeks” I’m okay. Won’t buy though
I’m pretty sure you’re stuck with Garmin (or AsteroidOS but this isn’t really an option) when it comes to smartwatch on degoogled Android phones.
In most Web3 blockchains ZeroKnowledgeProof aren’t proof. They often only have the succinctness of the proof and this is enough for the marketing team.
Also there is many things valuable in modern cryptography thanks to Bitcoin and other chains, blockchain and crypto are buzzwords for sure but that doesn’t mean that i’s 100% BS.
You spend that bill at a shop which brings them to the bank at the end of the day where the serial is collected.
Have you ever been on a cash based society, banknotes don’t do bank - user - seller - bank route, sometimes it might happen okay but it’s not the norm, these are global, not precise tracking.
This can be crosscorrelated with information from a dozen other sources. That infomation will practically never be used to you advantage.
I agree on this, but cash have still stronger anonymity and privacy than most electronic payment methods. That’s why they want cash to disapear in favor of CBDCs and banking cards. That’s also why corrupted european deputee have big bags of cash at home lol.
VPS and email are highly used in professionnal environment not only in hobbies. There is also AI where you can pay per tokens but I don’t really use that. I have even found a local phone carrier that have added Lightning Network and Bitcoin onchain for payment recently.
I live in a country where the currency holds strong even against US petrodollar. Where bank transfers have no additionnal cost (with the exception of international ones) and where cash is still used, so yes here bitcoin is considered more a store of value investment, despite mutiple merchants accepting it as a medium of exchanges. And crypto is more on the gambling side anyways.
However in countries like Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Vietnam, India, Venezuela, etc… people understand that the monopole of their government over money is not necesserly a good thing in their current situation. Use adoption is much stronger in the global south than the north. We also saw during recent protest in France people asking other to move out from the banks and store cash and Bitcoin to destabilize their corrupted system.
I would also like to remind people that without Bitcoin, Sci-Hub and probably WikiLeaks would be dead as both got banned by payment processor. So that is a strong indactor of how useful they can be. Also a non-monetray interesting use is OpenTimeStamps and the guatemala’s election of 2023 that takes benefits from the immuability nature of blocks produced by the consensus. Or also the mining facilities that reduce the price of the electricity bill of nearby citizen, or help renewable energy to sell when there is no demands or simply balanced the electricty grids. But one that I am really excited about is the ones that clear methane from the atmosphere to turn it into bitcoins and make it actual economically viable. It’s not all black or white, we have to see uses outside our comfort zone :D
They are. when I pay using a bank card many informations are shared with “partners”. With cash I don’t have to give my name to anyone.
We had different experience I guess. I have bought both online services and physical goods using Monero and Bitcoin such as VPS, email, aliases, art, PC components, bedsheets, food, drinks, clothes
You really thing they can do targeted tracking with banknote serial numbers? This is paranoia my friend :D
It’s a different design, different infrastructure but yes probably targeting the same audience.
Yeah I’m not into shitcoins either but the purpose of the NYM token is to create economical incentive for node runners and I don’t think its bad. Maybe the implementation is not perfect but it’s something worth exploring regarding how bad the Tor network is corrupted partially due to a lack of incentive to behave as good nodes.
Yeah, reinterpretation of some lines with context removed.
Couldn’t you just have install another app launcher instead of the default one provided by /e/OS nammed Bliss ?