The original claim was about tracking (“escape the big tech tracking”), so here AWS and Cloudflare are definitely relevant. The content, including input, also flows through them I think? It’s specifically unencrypted if I get it right.
Thanks for your comment. I’m still only learning how legislation in the EU works. However, so far I haven’t been able to confirm what you’re saying. Could you help if you know? (I assume not only me, but possibly other readers, too)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union
Here it doesn’t say (almost) anything about “trade”. Admittedly I’ve only read 2-3 pages and then used Ctrl+F to search on the rest of the page though… Is it a de-facto split between the legislative powers of the Council and the Parliament? Where to read about it?
there is little doubt that EU chat control will be implemented
Personally, I believe there’s a chance for stopping this. EU is not an authoritarian state. I wouldn’t give up too early – instead would rather fight and provide public pressure for the direction of the law that supports mine and everybody’s freedom.
If Europe doesn’t fight back strong enough, Chat Control will be one such thing. All your messages being scanned by a “black box” system. Hopes are on the European Parliament and societal pressure to cancel this now. https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/reality-check-eu-council-chat-control-vote-is-not-a-retreat-but-a-green-light-for-indiscriminate-mass-surveillance-and-the-end-of-right-to-communicate-anonymously/
escape the big tech tracking by installing uBlock Origin
Cloudflare and AWS say “Hi” 👋
UBO is a very good tech that I strongly recommend too though. Just gotta be aware of its limits.
(If you’re ashamed to explicitly point out your country, then… I think you have to deal with that anyway. I don’t know if fighting against the bad actors in your country is a feasible strategy; it’s too easy to give poor advice from far away, imagining yourself an expert where in reality you’re not, so I’m not recommending anything.)
Sorry, *your* president, not mine. I don’t live in the US.
Why should we care about an AI tailored to that one person whom many consider a fascist?
Negative publicity is also publicity. Please let’s rather ignore this stupidity.
Good question, and I’m not fully sure. I think it may be the messengers, E2E or not. I hope it’s not the hardware providers such as Samsung/Apple, because those wouldn’t be trustworthy.
It’s not a full ending yet. It’s a local win. But the possibility for the proposed “voluntary” surveillance is still discussed. We need to push this until April 2026 to make sure this sh*t doesn’t get through in any shape or form.
I’ve also edited the post slightly, adding a TL&DR; on top.
Good to know! I was really eyeing Triodos back in the day, due to what looked like a good ethical stance, but it didn’t work out at the time. Nice that they’ve fixed it! (I’ve updated my message above as well to include the bank.)
With respect to 2FA, if you want to be more ready for any future next time, you could migrate to an open-source TOTP app. E.g. andOTP. I use this one, it’s fine. The underlying standards don’t change in decades, so you can choose any compatible client and be without trouble for years and years. And it may be good to do in any case, googlified phone or not. Good apps also tend to provide password-protected backups.
I have no knowledge about RCS though, never used it so can’t tell. Otherwise GrapheneOS user for ~2 years, before that LineageOS, before that CopperheadOS for another few years.
You can use andOTP if you want a FOSS app on Android. If you’re a hardcore no-Android-at-all user (or considering), you can use KeePassXC on the desktop. This kind of defeats the purpose of 2FA, but on the other hand people with KeePassXC tend to have strong passwords due to ease of their maintenance, so you don’t need 2FA as much to begin with.
TL&DR; use andOTP on Android or KeePassXC on Linux Desktop.
(And noteworthy that ING has a million of different apps)
I’ve re-tried ING now, the app starts fine and the first steps to create an account are fine (I went up to the phone number and email). However, IIRC they used to break on further steps such as ABN AMRO breaking when wanting to scan my ID card for verification. But then again, you may not need it if you already passed that verification. Anyway, just letting you know if you’re curios; I’m aborting here.
That’s not a full solution really… unless you believe that the bluetooth software on the lamp has zero vulnerabilities that would ever be found and mass-exploited.
Dutch banks working without google are: BUNQ and ASN Bank (EDIT: and Triodos).
BUNQ has the built-in QR scanning functionality broken (the one for iDEAL, if you’re living in NL you know), but that’s acceptable because it works to scan the QR in Binary Eye, which in turn opens the bunq app and the payment can be made easily.
ASN just works, all features that I’ve tried I think. (This one is only in Dutch though.)
Banks that I’ve tried few years ago and they didn’t work: ING, ABN AMRO, Rabonbank, Tridos, possibly few others that I forgot.
Also, lately I’ve started using some of those “international” ones, not so focused on NL. I’ve found that Wise (pure web, haven’t even tried their app) and Revolut (app) seem to work well on my de-googlified phone. Hope that helps!
EDIT: re-worded the first line of my message to be indexable by search engines, because that may be useful for future readers.
I’m not sure what the point of the post is? Is it to share frustration? Searching for a solution? Sorry, I may be not good at inferring this, but I don’t get it.
IF you are in solution-finding mode, then there are a few things that you can do.
Grok this grok that…
I’m sorry, but ***k grok. Stop posting about it.