The videos are never associated with a user’s identity and are deleted after the verification process. Audio is never recorded.
I actually believe them. It’s gonna start out this way. But in a year or two, they’ll quietly slip in a provision stating they will hold on to the images for a short time for security purposes, then they will say that they will associate your image with your identity to make it more secure, then Google’s AI will know everything about everyone (and sell the info to the highest bidder)
I believe them as well from a very literal perspective. The video will be deleted but the metadata that is created from the video will not.
100% this. The fingerprint is what they use for reidentification.
I’ve spoken to a number of companies in this space while searching for one that uses a ZKP and a user-held VC of the fingerprint vs the server storing it (for use with a Linux Foundation labs project). I ended up rolling my own using FOSS face models.
This will be like the proof of age face scans. Yes, the VIDEO is deleted, but the unique biometric code describing your face sure as hell won’t be deleted. Focusing on deleting the video has got to be a deliberate distraction
It should be considered a universal law of corporate behavior: any information that has theoretical value will eventually be sold.
Even if current management has no intention of exploiting it, they’ll be replaced by the board, or the division and its data will be spun off and sold for its IP—that’s just corporate nature (i.e., the purpose of a system is what it does).
Don’t be evil
That’s just v1. At some point they’ll realize that bots can deepfake a human waving and they’re going to want to truly verify it’s you by verifying the position of moles on your body… Then they’ll have to save your data… to secure your account!
Soon they’ll realize to get good mole data they’ll need you to show more skin, as some people don’t have much on their face and their clothing could be hiding those juicy datapoints.
That’s when v2 hits. Flash google your titties to secure your account, don’t worry it’s super secure and we never share your titties with law enforcement agencies unless it’s required by law!
You’ll be walking through your local library because tech has gone to far and you need to unplug but as you walk by the rows of shared computers it’ll all be old people flashing their titties at the screen to continue watching ads on YouTube.
The fuck it will.
I will not do this. Whatever services require this i will not use.
If I have to do this to log into my email one last time as I’m migrating out, I will write off all emails there as lost. If my phone makes me do it to unlock it, I will go out and by an iPhone on the spot. That makes me want to puke typing that out, because I hate iPhones, but I’ll do it.
Linux phone. It’ll be painful, but maybe less painful þan an iPhone.
Shit what am I gonna do about email
I signed up for tuta, but have yet to actually migrate. I’ve been on Gmail for over 20 years, so it’s tough to get everything moved over as far as having used that for accounts.
Move existing messages from gmail account to new one, set up a forwarding rule from gmail to your new address for everything, change accounts as they show up. Maybe a bit longer route, but far easier to swallow since you don’t need to go trough all the things in one go nor worry if you’ve missed something.
Calling it: In the future we will learn that they have been using it to gather face recognition data and have been using it to track their users in the real world by partnering with the likes of Flock.
Reasonable bet if they didn’t already have root on devices in people’s pockets, with cameras pointing at their faces for hours per day. Along with GPS, cell, WiFi and Bluetooth location services.
The video gets deleted, they say. But they don’t say what happens to the data derived from that video. Training models and such.
I’ll delete your video for sure! Lemme just make a copy of it, first!
we will learn that they have been using it to gather face recognition data
They already have all that with the trillions and trillions of photos people willingly backed up with Google photos.
Google can verify I’m a human by not using Google.
I would love to not have YT in every corner of the internet though. I wonder how developers of Youtube forks will deal with this?
You need another YouTube. Free for anyone to post, the same volume, the same storage. Nebula is elite and paid. You and I can’t post on it. The others I’ve seen contain a handful of conspiracy theorists and Linux people.
Conspiracy theorists and Linux people? You sonofabitch I’m in
Yeah, but there only a handful of each.
The amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube needs is something no competitor could ever hope to match.
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The fuck it will
What Webcam?
Further reason to avoid google’s shit like the fuckin plague.
The videos are never associated with a user’s identity and are deleted after the verification process. Audio is never recorded.
My fat fucking ass do any of this. Google is just as data hungry as everyone else, they will absolutely save it, and feed it to their AI to enhance their ability to generate realistic people.
Exactly. In a few years, there will be some breach, and it will come out that Google “accidentally” saved everything, and they are shocked and appalled that the gosh darn AI that did it.
Exactly. Its what these companies do every time.
and there will be no punishment for it, because people are too lazy and stupid to stop using google, and government is to feckless and useless to properly hold megacorps accountable.
Bet they’ll be “punished” by a 5 million dollar fine (which is like, couch money to google, and would probably be 0.005% of the money they made from doing it)
Yes this hand gesture
Guess I’m not a human anymore
The Electric sheep dreams go hard though /s
A bit hard given the lack of webcam.
yeah, so that’s absolutely not happening. if it requires me to turn my cam on, I will just close the tab.
Do Google employees actually do anything other than sit around thinking of ways to make things worse? In the last few years we’ve had web environment integrity (thankfully that one seems to have been dropped), gutting the AOSP to the point where it’s practically unusable on its own, Android developer verification, play integrity, QR code captchas and now this
